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KINGFIELD — Residents who would live near a planned affordable apartment complex for homeless youth and young adults brought plenty of concerns to a community discussion about the project Nov. 7 at Martin Luther King Park Recreation Center.

The Plymouth Church Neighborhood Foundation is working with youth service provider YouthLink on the development, slated to replace a vacant funeral home at 3700 Nicollet Ave. Residents from Kingfield and Lyndale didn't express doubts about the organizations' good intentions, but said they were worried about crime, building design and mass, and other issues.   

Plans presented at the meeting called for a three-story, 42-unit building incorporating retail and office space on the first floor. The retail, possibly a coffee shop, would provide a place for tenants to work. Four two-story, three-bedroom town homes fronting 37th Street are also part of the plan.   

Each apartment would be a studio with rent ranging from $200 to $400 per month. Homeless and at-risk youth and young adults — 42 maximum — would be the sole tenants. Cost of the town homes hasn't been determined, but they probably would not be part of the program for helping youth and young adults.   

YouthLink would provide those individuals with counseling and supportive services, including programs that teach independent living in order to make the transition to self-sufficiency and permanent housing.

"We have young people tonight who have no safe place to sleep," said Lee Blons, executive director of the Plymouth Church Neighborhood Foundation.

In Hennepin County, 47 percent of people experiencing homelessness are under 21, said County Commissioner Gail
Dorfman, who attended the meeting to talk about Heading Home Hennepin, the city-county plan to end homelessness by 2016. More housing and services are needed to get homeless youth off the street, she said.

Tom Parent, chairman of the Kingfield Neighborhood Association's (KFNA) Redevelopment Committee, told meeting attendees that the housing project could be the neighborhood's contribution to Heading Home Hennepin. The KFNA gave preliminary support to the project earlier this year and hosted the meeting to get community feedback. KFNA planned to discuss the input at its meeting Nov. 14.   

Blons said the Plymouth Church Neighborhood Foundation, YouthLink and project architect Cermak Rhoades, of St. Paul, would use resident input to further develop their plans.

More than 100 area residents attended the Nov. 7 meeting and spent more than an hour commenting and asking questions. Crime, building security and eviction policies were hot topics.

"In this neighborhood right now there's prostitution, there's a lot of crime and there are drug deals that go on right in front of our house," said Kingfield resident Tim
Anderson.

Anderson and wife Amy, who live a block away from the development site, said the area isn't fit for 42 young people with troubled histories.

"It's not a good place for youth that are at risk," Anderson said. "You put them where temptation is."

Kingfield resident Pascale Crepon said she wanted to know more about the young people who might not be able to turn their lives around and how their behavior might affect the neighborhood.

"You have drawn a wonderful picture," she said. "But I'm actually more suspicious now because you don't talk about what happens when it fails."

Blons said the development wouldn't be able to help everyone, but it would make a difference for many young people. Tenants found to be involved in drugs or serious crimes such as robbery would be evicted, she said. A security camera system would be monitored around the clock to keep tabs on who's coming and going and what's happening on the property, she said.  

Some residents were concerned about the possibility of a lengthy court process should a tenant refuse to leave, but Blons said that was unlikely. At the Plymouth Church Neighborhood Foundation's Lydia Apartments, a similar development that opened in Stevens Square in 2003, no court process has been necessary to get someone out of the building, she said. Roughly 10–12 people are asked to leave Lydia each year for various reasons, such as inability to pay rent or involvement in drug use, Blons said.

Tom Thompson, a crime prevention specialist from the Minneapolis Police Department's 5th Precinct, told meeting attendees that 28 people arrested for various reasons such as trespassing, loitering and narcotics during the last two years listed Lydia as their address. He said he couldn't verify whether they actually lived there.

YouthLink-affiliated St. Barnabas Apartments at 906 S. 7th St. was listed as the address of 41 arrestees during the same time period, Thompson said, and another 16 gave the address of YouthLink-involved Archdale Apartments at 1600 1st Ave. S.

Blons said she was unaware of the arrest records and planned to meet with Thompson to discuss the issue. All potential tenants over 18 are screened for criminal history before being allowed to move into any of the apartments, she said. The same would apply to the Kingfield development, she said.    

Steven Gallagher, executive director of the Stevens Square Community Organization (SSCO) said the group was initially against Lydia but has had no complaints since it opened.

To get a firsthand look at affordable housing developments similar to what's planned for Kingfield, the Plymouth Church Neighborhood Foundation is offering a tour of Lydia Apartments and St. Barnabas Apartments on Dec. 5. The tour begins at St. Barnabas at 5 p.m. The Lydia tour starts at 6 p.m.

The Kingfield project would be the first joint venture between the Plymouth Church Neighborhood Foundation and YouthLink. If approved, construction would begin next year and the building would open in 2009 or early 2010.


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Don't Judge Me

By Melissa Hansen, December 19, 2007


I've lived in neighborhoods with high density rental housing and I've suffered for it. My home was broken into several times, my kids' bikes were stolen, I didn't feel safe walking around my block after dark. I worked hard to buy a home in a lower crime neighborhood and now I have to watch as outsiders force my neighbors and I to sacrifice the personal security that we've worked hard to attain. Of course I care about helping less fortunate people and of course I don't want anyone to be homeless. But I KNOW that about the negatives that come with high density rental housing. Don't judge me because I care about my family's safety.

 
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HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF "GIVING A HEADS UP"

By Elaine, December 3, 2007


Perhaps it is because they have no idea what they are getting into and we are just giving them a hint of what is to come. It's the "I wish others would have given us a heads up on this project".

 
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By chris burns, December 3, 2007


Sounds like another comment from another NIMBY who doesn't have to live anywhere near the project you want inflicted on others. Typical!

 
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Perhaps....

By , November 29, 2007


Just because the "Smart Density" folks were already vanquished, there is just a little resentment towards PCNF? For all the talk of neighborhoods and local decision making, their are a striking number of comments from people who don't live in Kingfield

 
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By Ginna, November 29, 2007


In responding to Bob, I would like to say, as you have, that low-income housing is really great when it’s not in YOUR backyard either! You have made attacks on neighbor’s who disagree with your idea of how this housing should look or how big it should be, yet you do not live anywhere near the projects. If you really felt that these projects are great for neighborhoods why don’t you live near them? It’s real easy to call people names and feel self-righteous when it really does not effect you in any way.

 
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you have no clue BOB

By Elaine Peik, November 29, 2007


My husband works for an at risk inner city youth program called Katahdin Inc. Never heard if it- its on 24th and PARK. I don't think Bob has ANY clue at all what it takes to help these kids. No clue at all. These kids are either here or they are in Detension. They are homeless, they live in halfway houses, they live in 2 parent homes they live in 1 parent homes. They come from everywhere. Yes, we need to help kids/people who are at risk, but yes neighbors should have a say what goes into their neighborhood. Both my husband and I grew up in Minneapolis, inner city, yes inner city, we have grown up and exhisted with ALL people, good, bad, rich, poor. I DON'T THINK MANY OF THESE PEOLE HAVE HAD A REALITY LIKE OURS. GET A CLUE BOB!!! Has your house ever been broken into, ours has, have you ever been mugged, I have, have you ever been assulted outside of your house, my mother has (we lived by an affordable housing complex in south east msp). I am so tired of people how don't even live in the situation (yes, right in the situation, not 6 or 8 blocks away) getting a say in what goes on and making decisions for neighbors who actually live there now. I sat and listened to a woman at the the planning commission meeting say that she would be excited to send her kids to Washburn and ramsey school. Does she even know what is goiNg on there, I do my family works there and lives it every day. Yes they are doing good but no, it isn't a God sent school, safe from all evil, there isn't one anywhere. I am really tired of shutting up and letting people deide what and what will not be in my neighborhood. Kingsfield, I hope you speak out and fight the same way.

 
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Neighborhood rights MUST be respected

By chris burns, November 28, 2007


I'm curious at what point the rights of the homeowners in the neighborhoods affected by the projects being forcefed on them by PCNF have any validity whatsoever? Mr. Pomeroy seems to feel that those of us who have worked hard and achieved a decent lifestyle for ourselves should have NO INPUT AT ALL in the direction our neighborhoods take. It should all be decided by PCNF. How close does he live to any of these developments? Is he sending his children to play in them? Is he sending his children to school with the children who live in them? Is he inviting the residents into his own home? My guess is probably not. This is typical of the colossal arrogance which has been displayed by PCNF, Mayflower Church and their henchmen since they began their campaign in Tangletown. They are there only to dictate what the neighborhoods will accept, NOT to discuss with the residents what they want in terms of size and density. These are not negotiations at all. The neighborhood's input is not valued at all by PCNF or any of their allies. The Mayor, the City Council, the Planning Commission and all city and state officials need to remember that the taxpaying homeowners of Minneapolis DO have the right to real input in the development of their own neighborhoods. You are the servants of the public at large, NOT JUST PCNF and their allies.

 
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PCNF is not the issue

By Bob Pomroy, November 28, 2007


I have noticed that few are willing to argue the need for housing at-risk youth. That is the primary issue for Kingfield, and for the rest of Minneapolis, the Metro area, and all of Minnesota. Only the most reactionary conservatives would advocate a position that homelessness and the cost of housing is not a problem. When opposition to progressive projects like those proposed by PCNF does arise, it seems to be from the perspective of resistance to change rather than rational argument. Having worked closely with the Plymouth Church Neighborhood Foundation, I find attacks on them say more about the nature and character of the attackers than that of PCNF. PCNF is working diligently on behalf of those of our neighbors who are finding that the American Dream is simply out of their reach. The track record of PCNF in this area is very good, and has rightfully earned the respect of many city leaders. It is interesting to listen closely to the attacks on PCNF, which are usually personal, vindictive, and hypocritical. I've often heard opponents say, "I'm not NIMBY, I'm not against affordable housing;” they just don't want it next door. As long as affordable housing projects are concentrated in low-income areas or built in far distant suburbs, the opponents are fine with them. Both the Kingfield neighborhood and at-risk youth will benefit from the new facility. Many more of these need to be built. I applaud PCNF for pursuing this right, proper, and honorable course.

 
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By Ginna, November 27, 2007


Just one more comment, juvenile records are sealed; therefore, anyone who is 18 will not have a criminal record even if they have been arrest many times for various offences it will not show up on the record. The only way a record will show up is if the person was tried as an adult. In that case most likely the person will still be in prison. Also, PCNF does not have the power to check the criminal records of friends of tenants. Just another thing to think about.

 
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By Ginna, November 27, 2007


Kingsfield, sorry to hear that you have to deal with PCNF. They out right lie about their projects and neighborhood support! They really don’t care at all about the exciting neighborhoods, just the developer fees they stand to gain! As a pervious landlord I would say that a 25% eviction rate is very high. Also, that fact that “28 people arrested for various reasons such as trespassing, loitering and narcotics during the last two years listed Lydia as their address” is alarming. It does not surprise me at all that Lee Blons once again knows nothing of this. It seems to be the answer when she hears something that does not work with her plan. I continue to wonder why the city planners all seem to think that PCNF is such a great developer. It looks to me that they have dropped the ball over and over again!!

 
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Neighbors Speak up!!!

By Elaine Peik, November 27, 2007


To Kingfield, Good luck to you all. The earlier the better to voice your objections. Gather your neighbors, learn your rights and fight. PCNF is Big Brother!!!

 
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misrepresentations

By Melissa Hansen, November 27, 2007


I have heard PCNF representatives tell outright lies regarding neighborhood support, among other misrepresentations. Beware.

 
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Evictions

By Terry Linder, November 27, 2007


It is such a shame PCNF has a political blank check to do whatever they want without any scrutiny. Seriously, 10-12 evictions per year from Lydia that houses 40 people (not units - people) is a lot! ~25% of the tenants per year!!

 
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Beware!!

By Kendall Linder, November 27, 2007


PCNF does not care about the existing neighborhood. It has rail-roaded supposed "neighborhood" meetings with church members who don't live anywhere near the neighborhood in question. They say whatever they can to get their paws on property and tax-dollars. They won't listen to the existing neighbors. Sorry to hear you have to deal with them!

 
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Don't Trust PCNF

By Curt Kellett, November 26, 2007


Kingfield and Lyndale. Wherever you find people effected by a PCNF project you will find enemies of PCNF. If you need our help in opposing them look at www.smartdensity.com Curt

 
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Good Luck!

By chris burns, November 26, 2007


Beware PCNF! They will say ANYTHING to get what they want. They cannot be trusted nor can any of the politicians. They'll all throw you and your concerns under the bus. Regardless of your race, religion or economic status you will be branded racists, classists, NIMBYs and just all around bad human beings for opposing ANY part of this. Good luck, you're going to need it!


 
 
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